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Mrpapadopolis
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 Posted - 01/24/2006 : 11:57:25 AM
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I ordered my M733 on Saturday night and it got here today, fast shipping, I got out of school today because i was sick  . But that didn't stop me from sprinting to the door to greet the UPS. I ordered 2 one for me one for my freind. Once i took it out of the box i was disgusted with a ugly KWC sticker on the logo spot above the mag. I quickly riped that off, i hate stickers! Once all the damn stickers were off i checked every part of the gun out. The Stock is 3 point retractable, and very very sturdy, it doesn't shake at all. But i don't prefer the slanted retractable stock i like the flat ones. The Stock tube feels metal but its not,its very strong plastic. The carry handle is not removable to my suprise! But it does have metal screws on the side. Although you could put a red dot sight on with a carry handle ring.
The hopup adjuster is in a very unique and cool spot. Its below the rear sight where you adjust the elavation. It uses 6 AA batteries that go in the foregrip. The delta ring keeps the foregrip in a secure position. It has metal sling attachments. Metal trigger, Metal magazine lock, and it says it has a metal rear sight but i can't feel any. The Charging handle is not pullable it actually pops off if you pull hard enough but it will pop back in. The dust cover is fixed closed it won't open.
The rear sight is adjustable. This gun is very solid and strong! It is actually a little stronger than my friends DMPS Ar-15 AEG and this gun is 3/4 the size of the full size M733's. Magazine is ok, it holds around 200 rounds, it doesn't shake alot in the magazine port. I hate the way you wind the magazine, it is on the side so it is harder to wind and less realistic. The gun is a satin or semigloss color which is fine to me, i might try a flat black paint later but i am very bad with paint. The gearbox looks to be pretty thick, good plastic. So upgrades can be done. The motor is not in the handgrip like most M16s it is right next to the gearbox on the right. Shooting is pretty dang good. It shoots over 170 fps and the hopup ain't bad. Very accurate gun for an LPEG. Overall this is the Best LPEG i have ever seen. I got mine for only 25 bucks and 60 bucks total with another M733 and extremley fast shipping. WOW very good gun. This gun is the same price as most mini electrics but 10X as good. If you want a LPEG go with this one it is one of the few. And im not biased for KWA actually i don't prefer them. Highly Recommended!!!! Very fun for plinking around the house and it doesn't leave marks on the walls
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sgtwiltan
Major
USA
Member Since: 08/17/2005 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 12:08:32 PM
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| The actual flip-up L-shaped sighting holes and the windage knob is metal as far as the rear sight is concerned. |
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shadowmaster123
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Member Since: 04/07/2005 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 12:52:46 PM
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good review i like that gun alot
thats funny iam home sick too |
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Mig1
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Member Since: 05/20/2003 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 2:13:17 PM
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| A colt model 733 with a removable carry handle is actually called a model 933. FYI. |
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esnow07
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Member Since: 12/01/2005 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 4:06:31 PM
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| What would you suggest? The AUG or this gun? I have the money to go buy an LPEG now I just need to pick which one. It's looking like the AUG but I want to know how this gun is. |
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Mrpapadopolis
Sergeant
USA
Member Since: 08/19/2005 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 6:37:30 PM
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Well you save a ton of money with this gun, if you are using it for serious competion get the Aug, if you are talking about the 200 fps Aug, the Aug probably has more range. But couple hours ago i shot it outside and it was shooting, consistently, right at my neighbor's house and they live across the street, shooting more than 100 feet, very accurate too. Very nice gun! It shoots more than far enough since i am mainly using this for inside play. Personally i don't like the look of the AUG. ANd the AUG only has a 60 round mag unlike the KWA's has a 200 round mag. It really depends on where you play. If you play in a big area needing small amounts of accurate fire get the AuG if you play in a CQ area where tons of ammo is a demand and are stuck in tight places get the M933. I can't wait to play in a rundown building. Only downside is the stock, i don't like the slanted stock it looks bad but no problems with the stock, actually the stock works perfectly even better than my Sr4 stock i used to have. Oh and the Winder on the mag is on the side makes it look bad.No barrel wobbles. Sounds low powered but i am comparing that to my Fully upgraded UTG MP5 that is shooting 350fps and 900 ROF. I think it sounds cool though. My M933, thankyou for the correction, is a perfect weapon for me and i think everyone should try it since its so cheap. I always get the Cheap high Quality guns!Cough...UTG...Cough
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justsomeguy
Colonel
USA
Member Since: 07/08/2004 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 6:38:56 PM
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| The BE AUG will have a stronger rate of rife, be a bit more reliable, and be stronger. I am not sure about this, but I think the AUG can also use AEG magazines with modification. |
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DJMikeOz
Captain
USA
Member Since: 12/17/2004 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 6:55:44 PM
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| If I had not seen the pictures I would think you were nearly describing the KK. Sounds like a good buy. I might get one in the furture. I'll add it to my list. |
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Mrpapadopolis
Sergeant
USA
Member Since: 08/19/2005 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 7:28:44 PM
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Actually the M933 is probably a bit stronger in some areas. Ive heard of the foregrip handle of the AUG breaks off all the time. But seriously it is a very strong, solid gun! Oh and DJ what is the KK? Heres a lot more pics i took. Watch out theres alot!:
Size difference
Other Stuff
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justsomeguy
Colonel
USA
Member Since: 07/08/2004 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 7:43:02 PM
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KK=DPMS Kitty Kat.
I meant stronger in relation to FPS. |
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Mrpapadopolis
Sergeant
USA
Member Since: 08/19/2005 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 7:53:08 PM
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Oh yea defeintly! Its got more fps and range.
Hey Just some guy i saw your topic about Lpeg defenition doesn't have a KWA M933 Pic. You want to take one of mine and use it in the topic?...that would be awesome! Pick whichever pic you want or i can take another pic if you want and ill email it to you. That would be really appreciated. |
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justsomeguy
Colonel
USA
Member Since: 07/08/2004 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 8:07:20 PM
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| Well, that section I am using for modified LPEGs. If you do something really spectacular, I will gladly put it up, but if I put yours that's relatively stock, everyone will want theirs up. |
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Mrpapadopolis
Sergeant
USA
Member Since: 08/19/2005 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 8:46:01 PM
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| I got a red dot sight and i modified a DMPS AR-15 Retractable flat stock to fit on my M933, instead of the slanted stock i don't like on the M933. I got a couple pics of it but i can't send it to you yet. but will those modifications be enough, if not what else do you want me to do? |
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MiniPro8
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Member Since: 05/27/2005 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 9:05:20 PM
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| This gun always appealed to me in that it wasnt a half-assed cheap piece of crap AEG (ahem CYMA) that happens to be somewhat accurate - its a gun that was DESIGNED to be a mini AEG (like the TM Boys series) so its more of a quality buid |
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DJMikeOz
Captain
USA
Member Since: 12/17/2004 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 9:55:02 PM
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| Your MP5 and your sniper are nicely setup there Mrpapadopolis. I am sorry about that last thread again. Not sure why I doubted you. You've got an aestetic eye for balace and functionality with your rifles. I think you might have convinced me (or at least helped) to decide I would like a 3/4 rifle. Sounds fun to play with and ultimately CQB ready. |
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Thequestionmark
Major
USA
Member Since: 09/06/2005 |
Posted - 01/24/2006 : 10:38:10 PM
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Nice review... Good job I gotta say, I saw this at AA the other day...
Is this thing kind of small to shoulder or is it about right? |
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Mrpapadopolis
Sergeant
USA
Member Since: 08/19/2005 |
Posted - 01/25/2006 : 05:20:28 AM
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Pretty easy to shoulder, but i modified a DMPS Flat retractable stock to fit on it and it works!! It looks alot cooler than the slanted one and its easier to shoulder because its alot bigger, i'll put pics up after school. Im gonna try to make a custom silencer for it, that really silences. But i am doing so much this week: Have you guys ever tried upgrading a DMPS AR-15 AEG, if you haven't never try it is so frustrating and takes forever. So whenever i get the time.....
Forgot to tell you guys the ROF isn't that impressive but fast enough for me, although the ROF isn't great the semi auto works really good, you can do really quick double taps.
Well im back from school and i got some pics up of my modified DMPS AR-15 Flat Retractable Stock i got on my M933 instead of the old one. Sorry some of the pics are blurry, my digital camera isn't great
Here is old stock:
Here is New Stock:
And here are some Other pics i took before i modified the stock:
Guess What....! More pics!! I still got a way to go to tie
StaticZero on ArniesAirsoft for most pics on a topic besides a picture topic:
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=30898
Sorry, but the pictures aren't near as good as StaticZero's, this camera was expensive but it still can't catch good closeups.
Here is the Gearbox:
I loved taking apart the gearbox, everything is so small, its cute
Motor:
Gears:
Cylinder:
Look at the air nozzle...Its metal, Ohhh Ahhh!
Piston:
Oring for Pistonhead(not good compression, anybody know where to get a replacement Oring that size?)
Spring Guide:
Last but not least the cute, little, spring.
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justsomeguy
Colonel
USA
Member Since: 07/08/2004 |
Posted - 01/26/2006 : 8:36:42 PM
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Mrpapadopolis
Sergeant
USA
Member Since: 08/19/2005 |
Posted - 01/27/2006 : 5:57:50 PM
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So plastic pinions are better or brass? sorry kinda confusing....
But 1 prob i have had and its partly my fault, while i was tking apart the gun i was unscrewing a screw i guess to hard and the thread just cracked off. It was a pencil thin plastic tube and the twisting probably snapped it since i screwed the screw in way to tight.... But i fixed it with a little gorilla glue. Still havnt used the gun in a real game yet, i have had so much hw this week and not to mention almost every thing has gone wrong while trying to upgrade that ****ty DMPS Ar-15...hate it!! And not sure if ill get to play this week either, damn teachers given hw on the weekends. No Hw should be a law. Sorry for the outburst can't stand HW.
Dont worry more pics are comin, maybe even a 15sec video, with no sound how does that sound..lol sorry, crappy expensive digi camera.
*Little update*
I tryed to swap the crappy Aluminum barrel with my stock Brass UTG MP5 barrel, it didn't do to good. I am guessing it was cause the hopup cutout. It shot kinda wierd.... it shot high right. Their was a big difference. But the Aluminum barrel is back in and it s doin great. I kinda fixed it up a bit, i used steel wool on the inside and then lubed it up, then squigeed it clean. Although the barrel is short it works like a charm.
I was wondering is their anyway you could convert it to use a rechargable battery? Like unsolder the connections to the AA ports and put deans connectors on and connect a battery? Has anybody done or tried this? I really want to do this. Would i need to rewire it, the wires are very small probably 22 AWG, i could do 16 AWG would that work? Ill defiently try doing that once i get some time....
Look at this strong metal thing:
it goes along the barrel so it doesn't wobble or break. It is very strong and very high quality metal, its defiently not aluminum! So i trust my barrel to never break. It also provides screw threads so the threads wont strip! Still haven't played a game withit, hopefully tommorow! |
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-Razgriz-
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Member Since: 01/16/2006 |
Posted - 01/28/2006 : 7:58:39 PM
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MonkeysAteMe
Private
USA
Member Since: 12/20/2005 |
Posted - 01/28/2006 : 8:50:11 PM
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| Can I get a pic of the barrel? Is part of it cut out for the hop-up or is it a full circle? |
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Mrpapadopolis
Sergeant
USA
Member Since: 08/19/2005 |
Posted - 01/28/2006 : 11:38:34 PM
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Its the Hop Up cutout. But it still works just not as good as the original. I don't have a pic and i don't want to go back in the gun to get one, it takes a while to take it apart.
I made a silencer for it and it actually stays on tight. It doesn't silence that much its mostly for looks. The sound mainly comes from the mechbox so i can't silence it. But it looks great! Tommorow ill put pics up and a guide to how i made it. It actually only took me less than 30 minutes i used anything i had at my house to make it. I still have somemore ideas for external upgrades, i was thinking about a vertical foregrip, and a Flashlight that attaches to the barrel(anybody know where i can find one of those flashlight to barrel attachment?)
*Update*
I took some pics but im not done yet. Istill need to go to Lowes to get some plastic End Caps and some Flatblack spraypaint. Here are some pics:
This is the supplies(but not all)
Marker that slides tightly into the barrel
PVC Pipe
See the foam how it is fitted in the Pipe(needs to have a hole for the hollow tube but still tight)
Finished(without paint or Plastic endcaps)
Check out the Ghostface Killahz, its a Ghost Recon 3 Preview looks amazing! everybody gots to like Ghost recon!
Materials:
*PVC Pipe(long or as thick as you want, just not too long or thich)
*Foam(cut to size)
*Scissors
*Sometype of hollowed out tube that fits toghtly in your gun's outer barrel(i used a marker)
*Drill with various bits
*2 Plastic endcaps
*Glue (anytype)
*Spray paint(whatever color)
*A Gun(i recommend the M933)
Steps
*Cut PVC pipe down to size(mine is 4 1/4 inchs long, 1 1/2 inches wide)
*Take tube and make it totally hollow or take out all the parts if its a pen or marker.
*Drill small Holes in the hollow tube so it helps silence it(as shown in picture 2)
*Put foam inside the PVC Pipe but make sure their is a hole the hollow tube can go through then glue it in.
*Stick the hollow tube in the PVC pipe between the foam(so it has a tight fit in the Pipe)
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plastic endcaps and drill holes. One wide as the muzzle of the gun and the other as wide asthe hollow tube.
*Fit the endcaps in the Pipe and fit the hollow tube and the muzzle in each drill hole you made in the endcaps As seen here:
Red-Hollow Tube
Green-Barrel of gun
Yellow-Foam
Blue-Plastic Endcaps
Black-Drill holes in endcaps for fitting the muzzle and hollow tube in
*Glue hollow tube to endcaps and glue endcaps on PVC Pipe if needed
*Paint silencer whatever color and your ready to go SWAT!
Last night i tried to paint the silencer and failed horribly... I painted one part and left it outside, i forgot about and went to bed...lol I woke up and found the PVC Pipe in my Next door nieghbors yard, really windy last night, bad part is the marker litteraly flew away, so did the newspaper. It doesn't matter i have plenty of markers where that came from. Ill go to Lowes as soon as i wake my sister and get some more paint and endcaps. Its turning out great and the good thing is the silencer is not permentaly on the gun, it can slide off really easily and you can use it on almost anygun. Any comments or constructive feedback would be awesome. I wish it would silence more but the gearbox is making most of the noise, although it sounds kind of muffled. |
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aguyfromthewest
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Member Since: 03/18/2005 |
Posted - 02/01/2006 : 01:08:46 AM
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| Nice mods, does the high-cap work well? I've heard it's internally fragile. |
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Mrpapadopolis
Sergeant
USA
Member Since: 08/19/2005 |
Posted - 02/03/2006 : 05:39:45 AM
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| So far its been great feeds good! probably gonna buy another. |
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the ROOB
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Member Since: 08/30/2005 |
Posted - 02/03/2006 : 08:33:42 AM
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gotta love ghost recon. look me up on xbox live mrpapa.. my gamertag is THE ROOBS.
nice looking gun mr, I was thinking though, maybe the silencer would look better if it went all the way back to the front sight post?
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Mrpapadopolis
Sergeant
USA
Member Since: 08/19/2005 |
Posted - 02/04/2006 : 09:24:07 AM
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Hey i dont have ghost recon 2 anymore but once i get 360 ill get Ghost recon 3. I have Halo2...didn't even have to tell you that lol but i also got splintercell chaos theory. But thanks for the input i still havnt had time to complete my silencer ive been having trouble in school Ill try this weekend, but where can you find plastic endcaps? |
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KWA M933 LPEG First Impressions:Too many Pictures!
